Raymond Peat, Ph.D.

WATER/ MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT NUTRITION

2013, VoiceAmerica with Sharon Kleyne

[justify]Sharon Kleyne: Can you present yourself ?

Peat: I didnʼt actually start professional biology study until 1968 at the university, I studied there four years in physiology and biochemistry. Before that around 1950 I had heard about Albert Szent-Gyorgi and the lectures - he went around the country doing demonstrations of living tissue and the state of water inside muscles for example. And he could show that the condition of the water as it effected molecules changed instantaneously when a muscle was stimulated or when a nerve was activated. I looked around to see who else was working on that kind of thing and it was utterly neglected by the professional biologists. He happened to have got interested in this line of thinking many years earlier, got his nobel prize working on vitamin C, but his real interest was in how the state of water changes between life and death and different states of energy production So I had that in mind all through the 60s and I taught a biology course in ohio at a little college, and while I was working there, Linus Pauling did some research that lined up with Szent-Gyorgi and he proposed that anesthetics work by altering the state of water in cells. I looked around again and saw that chemical community was ignoring Pauling, even though he had a nobel prize, and these two people were outstanding for their interest in how water lets organisms work. After several years, I decided that despite the established academic science culture lacking any interest in what I wanted to study, I had enough experience with the universities to go through them, and use their instruments to do the research I wanted without getting indoctrinated by their beliefs that everything is governed by genes and molecules and membranes and so on.

K: ......Why do you think they left all of that study behind?

Peat: It was a philosophical doctrine that took over. It related to the mainline medicine - allopathic medicine - and its idea of what an organism is. And the gene people were representing almost a religious line of thinking that hated to admit that organisms were as complicated as they are. They were imposing a system of beliefs all through science. Thereʼs a book by someone that I knew in the 1960s called The Cold War in Biology that explains how there was a doctrinaire political campaign going on all through the universities of america to change the thinking and direct thoughts to genetic engineering to make it an industrial medical manageable concept of how organisms work. Where the other people were going directly to the organisms seeing what happens, the mainline thinking wanted to go from factories to doctors to what they could sell. What they were doing was putting the marketing department first.

K: (some ***t about marketing and patenting water) When you look back on it Dr. Peat, do you think thatʼs why they left the water behind? Because itʼs the primary reason we are alive? Youʼre hearing the word dehydration a lot (yadayadayada I donʼt understand this woman)

Peat: I think itʼs a matter of being able to control products. When I was taking my first course in muscle physiology, water was absolutely neglected. The membrane was there to keep the water inside, and the enzymes caused reactions. But the way the water handled/controlled the chemical reactions was absolutely neglected and the professors didnʼt want to talk about it. In electron microscopy, my professor had his marvel of how the little parts inside the cell work, and the spaces were so narrow that only a few layers of water would fit between the molecules. But he absolutely didnʼt want to talk about what was in those spaces. A professor at Univ. of Washington, Gerald Pollack, is demonstrating that-- he has videos available on the internet that are just amazing. He shows that the effect of a surface organizes water and causes water to be in control of things dissolved in it at a tremendous distance out form the surface, which is vastly greater than the areas involved inside the cell. So when you look back at what these professors were doing, they were basically being crazy to ignore the great power of the water inside the cell when Gerald Pollack is demonstrating that it extends out so you can see it in a beaker or in a glass tube.

K: Thereʼs a nature to the water, thereʼs a nature to itʼs function and ..the dehydration effect from birth... And what do you think to analyze that? Because itʼs been causing a lot of problems that they donʼt want to go to the nature of the molecule in the cell. A nobel prize winner told me that he spent millions of dollars and it took him 25 years to prove that there was water inside a cell and it didnʼt go anywhere. Dr. Peat, can you imagine how far weʼve come in research and “they” donʼt want to admit that we are made up of water and the research goes into study all these diseases and these symptoms. I think they should go after the water and the dehydration first.

Peat: When I was a little kid, I would ask people why the water was blue. And they would say it was the sky reflecting in it. And I was at Crater Lake on a cloudy day when the sky was absolutely gray, and the lake was just as blue as ever. And the whole culture including Science magazine - the journal of the american association for the advancement of science - they were as recently as 1970s publishing articles claiming that basically it was the sky, the way light was interacting with the water. Linus Pauling, way back in one of his text books, said in the properties of water, itʼs a blue substance. The fact that you can put water in a bucket, and itʼs blue, itʼs simply obvious to the eye, but science had this insane need to abstract things to say water basically isnʼt there, it has only these things that we are willing to assign it, but in fact –

K: .........................what is happening to the body, and itʼs water content.....water vapor...humidity....water vapor...greenhouse gas...carbon dioxide......influence with body water, water vapor, cloud system...fresh water...aquifer...all over the world...

Peat: The forests are a great stabilizer of the whole water system, ground water and air water depend on the interactions of forests. So deforestation has been causing a terrible change in the water system.

K: And water vapor and cloud system.

Peat: Yeah..

K: Right, right. ....it can be corrected

Peat: -yep-

K: ..and we can go back in and Dr, I truly believe..and you know better than I, and I can give you an example. People are not educated about it. Theyʼre hearing always the same thing, theyʼre never hearing that they are water, and the impact on them with the water vapor and the cloud system and the fresh water on the surface. The education has not been what you have said today

Peat: Part of the water system is the trunk of trees. The wood is moist and there are channels so that the moisture form inside the tree comes out into the leaves when the

roots are slightly deprived of water. The tree can live by moving the water from inside its trunk. The bigger the trunk is, the greater the reservoir of water to put back into the air. And if you cut down trees that are 5 or 6 feet in diameter and replace them with a forest of trees that are 6 or 8 inches in diameter, they are unstable as regulators of atmospheric water, because there is just a very tiny reservoir available to them. So when the humidity goes down and they arenʼt able to replenish it from huge tanks of water in their trunks.